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RE: Do you think di genius effectiveness has decline since Kartel's departure from Bigship
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NO I DOUBT THAT BUT I CAN SAY THAT HE NOT PUTTING OUT THE HOT RIDDIMS LIKE HE USED TO

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NO I DOUBT THAT BUT I CAN SAY THAT HE NOT PUTTING OUT THE HOT RIDDIMS LIKE HE USED TO



it simple di boss nuh deh pon dem fi mek dem hot....suh how no i doubt dat come inn?



-- Edited by DUGGYFRESH on Thursday 25th of November 2010 06:29:13 PM

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pun the question was if genius was on the declined from kartel stop voice for him......yes we all kno he made mad collab and smoking....but guess what?????? kartel is on it.... lol therefore......thats y dem a go hard pity



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.....point is u want me fi say sittin bout kartel so u can say

 

"pity DEM ALWAYS HAVE SUPPM FI SAY BOUT THE BOSS AND IF HIM NUH SHYT DEM CYAAH SWALLA"

 

BUT MI BRING UP POINT WIDOUT SAYING ANYTHING BOUT  HIM.....SO IT GUH STILL lol



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DUGGYFRESH wrote:

 

radkin wrote:

NO I DOUBT THAT BUT I CAN SAY THAT HE NOT PUTTING OUT THE HOT RIDDIMS LIKE HE USED TO



it simple di boss nuh deh pon dem fi mek dem hot....suh how no i doubt sat come inn?

 



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I get what your saying. At the end of the day its all about the paper

But to me from year only one good riddim him have. but thats my point of view

If pple want see a real bigship hit again link up Stephen with di teacha or else next year is ganna be a ruff year for bigship productions


thank yo yuth.. yo save mi a whole paragraph fi mek dem knw wah gwaan.. mi no affi seh nothing.. yo just say it for me..

 



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but pun its about him... lol and pun chrome bought the riddim from steven...and then sell the entire collection to vp......so then vp controls everything....therefore chrome controls the masters of the riddim....... lol

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and in summary the problem is

if u mek good riddim and if him or the next man dont deh pon it....it lame?? and so it hard fi you as a young producer mek a name fi yuh self cause u nuh have the money fi put dem two ppl dem pon u riddim....so ur career will not reach nuh weh

so dancehall really dead fi tru

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radkin wrote:

NO I DOUBT THAT BUT I CAN SAY THAT HE NOT PUTTING OUT THE HOT RIDDIMS LIKE HE USED TO



it simple di boss nuh deh pon dem fi mek dem hot....suh how no i doubt dat come inn?



-- Edited by DUGGYFRESH on Thursday 25th of November 2010 06:29:13 PM

 


LOL I WANT TO SAY IT BUT I DONT. CHU RHASS MI NUH KNOW A WHAT A GWAAN WID STEPHEN, YOU COULD PROBABELY BE RIGHT THOUGH. CAUSE WE ALL KNOW KARTEL HAVE A BAG A SONG AND NUFF A DEM SHOT.

 



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radkin wrote:

 

DUGGYFRESH wrote:

 

radkin wrote:

NO I DOUBT THAT BUT I CAN SAY THAT HE NOT PUTTING OUT THE HOT RIDDIMS LIKE HE USED TO



it simple di boss nuh deh pon dem fi mek dem hot....suh how no i doubt dat come inn?



-- Edited by DUGGYFRESH on Thursday 25th of November 2010 06:29:13 PM

 


LOL I WANT TO SAY IT BUT I DONT. CHU RHASS MI NUH KNOW A WHAT A GWAAN WID STEPHEN, YOU COULD PROBABELY BE RIGHT THOUGH. CAUSE WE ALL KNOW KARTEL HAVE A BAG A SONG AND NUFF A DEM SHOT.

 

 



FI REAL BREDDA YUH JUST A SEH DI TING....HIM RIDDIM DEM BAD BUT HIM NEED DI TEACHA FI MEK DEM BADDA



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no pun dancehall can never die.......no 1 man is bigger than the music.......no 1 can hold dancehall at ransom.......steven and kartel really clicked......but probly steven is just having riddim making blocked at the moment......more riddim makers will come...and more talented djs will come out (hope so) there will soon be a change to this crab inna barel thing

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no pun dancehall can never die.......no 1 man is bigger than the music.......no 1 can hold dancehall at ransom.......steven and kartel really clicked......but probly steven is just having riddim making blocked at the moment......more riddim makers will come...and more talented djs will come out (hope so) there will soon be a change to this crab inna barel thing


but u were the one saying that if him dont deh pon di riddim it naah shot

which means ur saying that one man bigger than the music.....so ur contradicting urself

so u mean if i beat two pan together and him dj over it...it a guh shot....and if smaddy else dweet..it flop then rte?

 



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mafia7 wrote:

no pun dancehall can never die.......no 1 man is bigger than the music.......no 1 can hold dancehall at ransom.......steven and kartel really clicked......but probly steven is just having riddim making blocked at the moment......more riddim makers will come...and more talented djs will come out (hope so) there will soon be a change to this crab inna barel thing


but u were the one saying that if him dont deh pon di riddim it naah shot

which means ur saying that one man bigger than the music.....so ur contradicting urself

so u mean if i beat two pan together and him dj over it...it a guh shot....and if smaddy else dweet..it flop then rte?

 

 



YEAH IT AFFI SHOTmadmadmadmadmad



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DUGGYFRESH wrote:

 

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mafia7 wrote:

no pun dancehall can never die.......no 1 man is bigger than the music.......no 1 can hold dancehall at ransom.......steven and kartel really clicked......but probly steven is just having riddim making blocked at the moment......more riddim makers will come...and more talented djs will come out (hope so) there will soon be a change to this crab inna barel thing


but u were the one saying that if him dont deh pon di riddim it naah shot

which means ur saying that one man bigger than the music.....so ur contradicting urself

so u mean if i beat two pan together and him dj over it...it a guh shot....and if smaddy else dweet..it flop then rte?

 

 



YEAH IT AFFI SHOTmadmadmadmadmad

 


lolu nuh eazy

 



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but pun.....its not about steven's riddim alone a shot.......thats wat im saying....kartel alone cannot play at parties or dance........this year speaks for it self.....one day riddim and so on....its the producers who are following 1 another that is mashing up the music......they need to be more creative......and also the artistes too....stop follow the man.....and no read wat i said...im not contradicting myself......................

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Gamepun (Snr.Mod) wrote:

and in summary the problem is

if u mek good riddim and if him or the next man dont deh pon it....it lame?? and so it hard fi you as a young producer mek a name fi yuh self cause u nuh have the money fi put dem two ppl dem pon u riddim....so ur career will not reach nuh weh

so dancehall really dead fi tru



Thats exactly what im saying if he was the big producer that every1 claim he was. where is the finesse the big smashers that dominated dance hall wen vybz kartel was in his camp

im not his name sake not the riddims he produce. he has talent thats a fact but by himself where does he stand

 



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no no no no and more no .. a no karltel make dancehall ! nuff other ppl out deh a do them thing


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but pun.....its not about steven's riddim alone a shot.......thats wat im saying....kartel alone cannot play at parties or dance........this year speaks for it self.....one day riddim and so on....its the producers who are following 1 another that is mashing up the music......they need to be more creative......and also the artistes too....stop follow the man.....and no read wat i said...im not contradicting myself......................


yute...a one day riddim a di only riddim widout him or vado pon it and it shot.....its the first inna long while....name a next riddim weh nuh have dem and it shot?

mafia if u see a riddim post and u see.....a bagga ppl pon it who u nuh know...u dont listen the riddim and at the end a di day..you same one a say"a bay fockry riddim a come out...man dem naah drop nuttin solid"

when truth and in fact..u never listen the unknown producer riddim fi know if it good....so creativity outta it...a just corruption and politics a kill it

 



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pun the riddim is the first thing i listened to.........and to tell u the truth....i think they all using fruity loops to make riddims.......there is no substance in the music......and if only steven's riddim or kartel and vado singles are saving dancehall...then where else wud u look??? i wud look at the other producers.......oh and about 1 day riddim.... hmm u r right about 1 day being the only other riddim to have about 5 or more hit songs......but im optimistic........well hopefully nexx year me and my frens will try and bring sumting new to dance hall

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all of his riddims are solid and way above average (compared to the hundreds of garbage riddims, which came out this year, go check the post with the 500+ rdms for 2010). even if he didnt make the #1 riddim for the yr (what he did though imo), all of his riddims where good enough to play and listen, which barely one other producer can claim. personally im not missing kartel on big ship riddims, cause i stopped listening to him more or less since he stopped deejaying, but saying that stephen would depend on kartel is just ridiculous. and apart from the riddims stephen produced so many outstanding singles for mavado, busy, chino, aidonia that just these alone would make him the best producer atm imo.

-- Edited by +0p$h0++@ on Thursday 25th of November 2010 06:54:55 PM

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