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'Daggerin' viewed as barbaric abroad?


A member of the Black Blingaz crew takes on a female dancer at Passa Passa. - File

Recently, 'daggerin' videoshave appeared on United States cable stations and on the Internet, and they sometimes portray Jamaica in a negative light.

A few months ago a two-minute clip of 'Dutty Fridaze', held in California, appeared on the American cable station Tru TV. The main dancer, Skerrit, was jumping off high speaker boxes and other objects, landing on females. Other times he used his shoes and the table to hit them. The analysts all bashed the video, referring to it as dangerous.

There was also another video, 'Girl dies while dancing', that was quite popular on websites like Youtube and Facebook, as well as on mediatakeout.com. In this video, the dancers also behaved like acrobats.

But these are only a couple of the 'daggerin' videos that are uploaded to the Internet daily. The comments left for these videos are never very flattering, sometimes refering to Jamaicans as barbaric.

However, Montego Bay-based dancer Dyema says she does not believe Jamaica is being viewed negatively because that is what her audiences abroad want to see.

 

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"Overseas people like that. When we go overseas a weh dem watch pon DVD dem waan see or dem nah go enjoy themselves," she told THE STAR, noting that people who make comments on Youtube can say anything, but their views are not necessarily a good representation of how people feel.

"Maybe to how the video look, it look like we a get hurt but a something weh wi practice. A mostly me dem do dem style deh wid (in reference to dancers Garth Sample and Marvin)."

Garth Sample said the videos might look bad but this is what he does for a living and this is also the case with other dancers like Dyema, Marvin, Back It Up and Iyla.

"Dem fi know seh a we job we a do. Is jus' our way fi mek money but some a it a stunt. Nuff a wah gwaan nuh real. We rehearse it so we know how fi land and how fi hold the woman dem so dem don't get hurt. Sometimes the move will go wrong, like when Marvin knock out the girl," Garth Sample said.

 

positive and negative aspects

Another dancer, Mystic, said she has seen many of these videos and, like dancehall artistes, she said there will always be positive and negative aspects in dancing.

"Di one dem weh a dash out dem thing pon de sand make women in the dancehall look bad. Men get away with things that women cannot get away with," Mystic told THE STAR while noting that she does not want to seem as if she is bashing anyone.

"Maybe dancers like me, Dance Xpressions and Mad Michelle can pretty up the product little bit."

Creator of the dance move '90s Rock', Shelly Belly, said he feels some level of remorse about how negatively Jamaica is represented. But, "a our work we a do and we can't do no better".

However, Shelly Belly placed some of the blame on the selectors at dancehall events where he has had to display his dancing skills.

"Yuh know seh a di selector dem boost di dancer dem fi mek that happen. A di vibes weh di selector have the dancers under," Shelly Belly told THE STAR.

"More time me deh a some place a gwaan easy and a selector seh Shelly Belly 'go fi har' and yuh caan flop yourself. Yuh ago go hard," he explained.
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Its viewed as barbaric because it IS. U tink mi woulda waan see mi dawta a low a man fi a ruff ar up inna dancehall...because its cool? Fcuk NO! I remember when it was taboo for young people to wine and bubble hard because it simulated sex. Now, that a di least. If u nah dagga a gal til she bruise up..u nah seh nuttn..kmt.

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daggerin never postpone

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Come ya have man flippen on woman and vice versa potraing sexual acts and peopel cheering them on like its a graceful act it looks barbaric maybe if dem pratice more to make it more of an art form instead of speratic acts it would be looked upon better!! sometimes it's not whats done but how its done!!
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I have to disagree with the little girl comment casue look at figure skating little girls in short skirts be twirled and twisted not to mention ballroom dancing but thru it looks grace full it's excepted!! I just say make it more graceful!!

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i agree di dancer dem fi cut di f**k mi watch dancehall channel and see di f**kery dem call dancing mi cant rate it but a di way dem eat food still but mi cant rate it

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dis so called daggering ting nuh mek sense...mi not even go dance again coz dem sick man stomach

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dis so called daggering ting nuh mek sense...mi not even go dance again coz dem sick man stomach




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Its viewed as barbaric because it IS. U tink mi woulda waan see mi dawta a low a man fi a ruff ar up inna dancehall...because its cool? Fcuk NO! I remember when it was taboo for young people to wine and bubble hard because it simulated sex. Now, that a di least. If u nah dagga a gal til she bruise up..u nah seh nuttn..kmt.



clap My point here still stands

 



-- Edited by Dj Quiva on Saturday 18th of July 2009 12:48:29 AM

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DJ OP wrote:

Its viewed as barbaric because it IS. U tink mi woulda waan see mi dawta a low a man fi a ruff ar up inna dancehall...because its cool? Fcuk NO! I remember when it was taboo for young people to wine and bubble hard because it simulated sex. Now, that a di least. If u nah dagga a gal til she bruise up..u nah seh nuttn..kmt.




true true mi not even guh dance again nietha cause anuh dance, is f**kery! dem not even play nuh culture tune againlc,  and Traveler......how di hell yuh ago compare ballroom dancing and figure skating to daggerin????srt dat is actual art, anuh like seh she ah wine up and split pon di floor anna talk bout har pum pum ah hot har lmaolol ridiculious!!!



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dem disgust mi dats y mi like upt parties inno cuz dat nuh gwaannot sayn u cant have fun but keep it at a humane level man jeez

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wow why would think that????? Can't begin to ovastand whyhmm

on a serious note its just plain ................dumb

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i go dance and dance and wine up but mi nuh inna di crazy heng awfa housetop boomflicc daggarin shit...they take it too far man lc

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a true mi no like di daggering ting, no rhythm an it wild. dat anno dancing a ra**

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Dezzy ya na see it doe it's not a comparison but I was saying daggering danceing can be more graceful but ya have dancers doing acts of sex on skates and dancefloor it's just that thru it looks more graceful and artistic it's excepted!!  and thats I what I think needs to happen with the daggering it looks crazy!! and painful!!  if ya ask me!! 

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ALL WE GOIN DO IS COME UP WITH ANOTHER WORD TO REPLACE DAGGERIN

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