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Gamepun
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WHATS UR OPINION ON THE SUBCONSCIOUS MIND AND DREAMING??
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I have seen a few threads and replies that talk about the subconscious mind and hypnosis. The subconscious mind is (as defined by Sigmund Freud) a repository for socially unacceptable ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic memories, and painful emotions put out of mind by the mechanism of psychological repression. However, the contents do not necessarily have to be solely negative.

The subconscious mind remembers EVERYTHING that you do, see, touch, taste, feel, desire, want, etc. every day of your life. If you could access your subconscious mind and turn it into long term memory, you would probably end up being deranged, psychopathic, or you would just have massive headaches all of the time because of all of the knowledge that you were retaining. Luckily that is not the case, but the subconscious mind does come out eventually, in a wonderful, magical place called your dreams.

I have been trying to study dreaming for a while now (hince why I have been talking about psychology lately) and I've been wanting to understand why we dream the things that we dream. First off let me explain what dreaming is.

Dreaming is something that you do when you go to sleep. The "Dream Sleep" or "Deep Sleep" is called "Rapid Eye Movement" sleep or REM (pronounced like Rim) sleep. It is called Rapid Eye Movement sleep because your eyes go back and forth rapidly when you enter this sleep. This form of sleep is NEEDED to survive.

There has been some discussion as to what dreams actually are, but the most universal explanation (amongst modern scientists) is that its basically your subconscious mind displaying random images which are then interpreted by your short term memory to display a scene that makes "sense" (I put that in quotations because dreams don't always make sense, but they make a definite scene).

Through some of my studies I have concluded that the longest, most memorable, dreams occur when the subject is sleep deprived (or has stayed awake for a long period of time) and has been asleep for longer than the suggested 8 hours.

Hypnosis is something that has been debated amongst psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. but basically what the "hypnotist" is doing is making the subject go into a deep sleep. The subjects that are normally chosen are those that are outgoing people. My proof? When a hypnotist is at a show he/she normally asks people to come up. The most outgoing people are the ones that are going to come up to the stage, because the shy people are just going to sit in their seats. So once the hypnotist has these outgoing people, they go into this deep sleep in which the hypnotist can suggest them to do anything stupid and they will do it (because they're outgoing people..)


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Dreams do stem from the subconscious and regardless to what anyone says we all have dreams. Every time we go to sleep we dream; however, it isn't all our dreams we remember. We often think that  dreams occur for a long time but in reality our dreams hardly even last up to a minute. Sometimes our dreams can be triggered by something that occurred within our current day, about a situation we're going through or basically about thoughts that have been circulating for a long time. Sigmund Freud's theory on dreams always reflects on the subconscious desire regarding sex whether or not we have a dream pertaining to the act. However; I have held the beliefs of the modern psychologists who have threw out Freud's idea of relating every dream to a sexual desire.


I am not a believer of hypnosis because I find it impossible to actually believe that a person have been hypnotized. There are some people who can never fall into the relaxed state to be hypnotized and there are others who do fall into the state. The problem is that some people may pretend to fall into a hypnotic state and comply to the hypnotist just for the fun of it. There is no actual test or procedure to know for sure that the individual was indeed hypnotized.

-- Edited by Msz.JayBee on Thursday 24th of June 2010 11:32:21 PM

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Msz.JayBee wrote:

Dreams do stem from the subconscious and regardless to what anyone says we all have dreams. Every time we go to sleep we dream; however, it isn't all our dreams we remember. We often think that they dream for such a long time but in reality our dreams hardly even last up to a minute. Sometimes our dreams can be triggered by something that occurred within our current day, about a situation we're going through or basically about thoughts that have been circulating for a long time. Sigmund Freud's theory on dreams always reflects on the subconscious desire regarding sex. Whether or not we have a dream pertaining to the act or not. However; I have held the beliefs of the modern psychologists who have threw out Freud's idea of relating every dream to a sexual desire.


I am not a believer of hypnosis because I find it impossible to actually believe that a person have been hypnotized. There are some people who can never fall into the relaxed state to be hypnotized and there are others who do fall into the state. The problem is that some people may pretend to fall into a hypnotic state and comply to the hypnotist just for the fun of it. There is no actual test or procedure to know for sure that the individual was indeed hypnotized.



hmm u know that even animals dream....just found out the other day



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hmm i wud love to understand that deja vu thing wtf u have a dream that feels o so real and then some time later it actually happens to u blankstare.gif thats basically seeing the future--really.

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Wasn't aware of that

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dark_law wrote:

hmm i wud love to understand that deja vu thing wtf u have a dream that feels o so real and then some time later it actually happens to u blankstare.gif thats basically seeing the future--really.



thats a next topic.....it feels like u have been somewhere b4......maybe we did have a former life



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Yeah Dark Law that deja-vu thing is totally crazy

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